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This excerpt taken from the NYX 8-K filed Jan 18, 2008. Larry Leibowitz American Stock ExchangeEVP and COO, US Products I believe on Arca what you are talking about is probably the Tape C; is that right?
Rich RepettoSandler ONeill & PartnersAnalyst Yes no, no, no. Im talking about NYSE Arca options.
Larry LeibowitzAmerican Stock ExchangeEVP and COO, US Products I think thats the ongoing trend of decimalization and we really think that penny options, we have been the biggest beneficiary of that platform our platform as a maker/taker model versus the directed order flow models. I think that is going to be an ongoing trend in the options business as more goes penny.
Duncan NiederauerNYSE EuronextPresident and Co-COO At the same time, Rich, as weve said a couple of times publicly both Larry and myself, were pretty convinced that even though that trend will continue, we think that options market structure is kind of destined to be bifurcated where if we can have a foot in both the directed model and the model that is more effectively positioned for the trends we see towards more of this serious trading in pennies, I think I like our position very much. We can have a very solid position in both types of market structure which we think are going to be important going forward.
Larry LeibowitzAmerican Stock ExchangeEVP and COO, US Products And we think this is very analogous to the equity situation where you have maker/taker models like ECNs and you also have directed flow models. In that case its the wholesalers like UBS or Citi and all those other those models exist side-by-side.
Rich RepettoSandler ONeill & PartnersAnalyst Thats a very popular strategy out there in the options industry right now, the dual covering both market-maker and maker/taker. Anyway this led into my last and final question. If Arca options is being affected taking it from the traditional models, you know Im just taking a look at whos winning and who is losing at least over the last year.
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You know, Larry and Duncan, you guys are winning on Arca options. So is Philly, picking up share. Could you have been taking share from Amex? I guess the numbers are pretty Im sure you cant tell exactly who is taking who but they are almost very closely correlated inversely correlated. Put it that way.
Larry LeibowitzAmerican Stock ExchangeEVP and COO, US Products We feel like were taking volume from many of the other players. I think what youre going to see is a shift in balance between directed which used to be 100% and maker/taker which was zero and that will shift but there it will reach some equilibrium of both. And then I think on the directed platform with a solid technology base, low latency solution, able to handle the bandwidth requirements, more sophisticated options strategies and things like that, we think we can compete with some of the more directed platforms as well and sort of get them from both sides.
Rich RepettoSandler ONeill & PartnersAnalyst Very last question again hitting you on the cost here, what is the biggest thing that moves the needle? I could guess but I would rather have you tell me, I guess in the $100 million sort of budget?
Duncan NiederauerNYSE EuronextPresident and Co-COO I mean if we had to guess today, Rich, and were going to get into more details I would say certainly on the technology side and certainly on the staff integration side.
Rich RepettoSandler ONeill & PartnersAnalyst Okay; congrats, guys. Nice deal.
Operator Daniel Harris.
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